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equal in status with israel, and the united states. and anybody else belonging to the u.n. just for some context here, though, the plo has been a permanent observer. that's been their status since 1974. and that has given palestinians the right to speak out and be heard at the assembly. but it doesn't give them a right to vote. richard roth, who covers the u.n. extensively and is our cnn favorite on this topic, is there to really give a little more context as to what they wanted to and what kind of status it would give them and how far up in status it would actually elevate them. richard, tell us what it means. >> okay. first, just to clarify, hamas not really here with the palestinians. the palestinian president abbas is in new york, met with the secretary general last night. yes, this is, as usual with the u.n., words matter. sometimes one letter in a document could be a time bomb. what we have here is the u.n. upgrading later today the status of the palestinians here. they are in effect going to become sort of a state within a group of states. but really, as you mentione
equal in status with israel, and the united states. and anybody else belonging to the u.n. just for some context here, though, the plo has been a permanent observer. that's been their status since 1974. and that has given palestinians the right to speak out and be heard at the assembly. but it doesn't give them a right to vote. richard roth, who covers the u.n. extensively and is our cnn favorite on this topic, is there to really give a little more context as to what they wanted to and what...
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israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has potential weapon in withholding tax revenue, collects on behalf of the palestinians. the best outcome here would be the united states goes well, we regret this, let's move on. and then the other aspect would, standing up immediately after this, but today in the u.n. and and say, i'm prepared to go into negotiations without preconditions. if you get those three, you know, legs of the stool, now you have something to kind of work with, if otherwise if everyone takes their own unilateral action you come out of this again, empowering hamas. >> p.j., where is the white house on this? i m
israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has...
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that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me next. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. one big thing on the schedule today that everybody is fairly interested in. that's that lunch with mitt romney. we're told no cameras. we'll see. we of the white house press corps officially protesting. we'd like to force them to let there be some official fourth estate coverage of this historic event. we'll see if they grant it. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. a winter wonderland doesn't just happen. it takes some doing. some coordinating. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things
that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me...
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says needs to be done at the peace table with israel. >> all right. elise labott and richard roth, thanks to both of you. we'll be right back. ♪ we were skipping stones and letting go ♪ [ female announcer ] nature valley granola bars, rich dark chocolate, toasted oats. perfect combinations of nature's delicious ingredients, from nature valley. ♪ nature valley granola bars, nature at its most delicious. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you as you go through your life with personalized policies and discounts when you need them most. just call... and speak with a licensed representative
says needs to be done at the peace table with israel. >> all right. elise labott and richard roth, thanks to both of you. we'll be right back. ♪ we were skipping stones and letting go ♪ [ female announcer ] nature valley granola bars, rich dark chocolate, toasted oats. perfect combinations of nature's delicious ingredients, from nature valley. ♪ nature valley granola bars, nature at its most delicious. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to...
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hamas and israel going on. it seemed mahmoud abbas becoming an influential figure here in the palestinian territories. a lot of people here also in the west bank that said hamas was essentially the one that stands up to israel. mahmoud abbas was seen as very weak. if you look at the several few days before this u.n. bid in the run up to all this, his poll numbers have really increased. he has gotten a lot more popular here in the palestinian territory. so, certainly, in many ways, this speech that he gave before that vote was a make or break moment for mahmoud abbas. it seems as though he carried some momentum from that. it's unclear, however, wolf, how long that is going to last. because tomorrow people are going to wake up and they're going to notice not much is going to change. the actual status of the palestinian territories really hasn't changed very much on the ground. that is something that israel has been saying, as well. they say in the end, this is a piece of paper. however, this is by no means that s
hamas and israel going on. it seemed mahmoud abbas becoming an influential figure here in the palestinian territories. a lot of people here also in the west bank that said hamas was essentially the one that stands up to israel. mahmoud abbas was seen as very weak. if you look at the several few days before this u.n. bid in the run up to all this, his poll numbers have really increased. he has gotten a lot more popular here in the palestinian territory. so, certainly, in many ways, this speech...
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this is something that israel and the u.s. have spent months lobbying against. i want to bring in jim clancy to put this in perspective here from cnn international. jim, first of all, what does this mean in very plain terms, for the palestinians if they get this upgraded status at the u.n., the significance? >> somebody calls them a state. they are allowed to join international organizations. they're even allowed to join the international criminal court. now, this is what worries israel and the united states because in doing so, they could file complaints with the court about the occupation, how palestinians are being treated. right now they have no such recourse. this is what could trigger a backlash by the u.s. and israel, who are downplaying it now saying that it's really meaningless, it doesn't have much meaning, and in a sense they're right, but for the palestinians, as can you see there in ramallah, it has incredible meaning, and it's got meaning for mahmoud abbas and fatah. this is a group completely sidelined by what hamas was doing in gaza. these are th
this is something that israel and the u.s. have spent months lobbying against. i want to bring in jim clancy to put this in perspective here from cnn international. jim, first of all, what does this mean in very plain terms, for the palestinians if they get this upgraded status at the u.n., the significance? >> somebody calls them a state. they are allowed to join international organizations. they're even allowed to join the international criminal court. now, this is what worries israel...
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and israel. here's israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier today. >> the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. and they must be prepared to end the conflict with israel once and for all. none of these vital interests, these vital interests of peace, none of them appear in the resolution that will be put forward before the general assembly today. and that is why israel cannot accept it. >> joining me now to talk more about this, former state department mideast officer joel ruben. also palestinian italian journalist and msnbc contributor willa jabroe. both israel and the u.s. say the resolution violates agreements to solve issues through negotiations which broke down two years ago. on the heels of the recent violent clashes between gaza and israel is now the right time for this vote? >> well, it's a fate acomply that the vote is going to take place. it's been in the works for some time before -- really the bigger issue is how will the parties react after it? there's been a calm re
and israel. here's israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier today. >> the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. and they must be prepared to end the conflict with israel once and for all. none of these vital interests, these vital interests of peace, none of them appear in the resolution that will be put forward before the general assembly today. and that is why israel cannot accept it. >> joining me now to talk more about this, former state department mideast...
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. >> eliot: fascinating development in israel where the prime minister olmert said that he supports it. does that mean they're moving towards meaningful peace negotiations. >> there is an election coming up in israel. what has been missing in past elections is the peace center or left. as they formed a new party this week, if they're going to play that role, either can challenge the incumbent government or moderate its stance and try to see after the u.n. petition tomorrow with the palestinians
. >> eliot: fascinating development in israel where the prime minister olmert said that he supports it. does that mean they're moving towards meaningful peace negotiations. >> there is an election coming up in israel. what has been missing in past elections is the peace center or left. as they formed a new party this week, if they're going to play that role, either can challenge the incumbent government or moderate its stance and try to see after the u.n. petition tomorrow with the...
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congressman steve israel, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> the republican smear campaign against ambassador, susan rice, continues as more senators pile on. karen finney weighs in on what's the next best move then? the time is now to find out why the new push for immigration reform is making republicans very uncomfortable. stay with us. >>> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. this decision about my successor is up to the president but i'm very happy he has the opportunity with a second term to make a decision. >> secretary of state, hillary clinton, coming to the defense of his possible successor, u.n. ambassador susan rice. yet, the smear campaign against susan rice continues as more republicans pile on. rice had another tough day on capitol hill today. now, senate republicans are blaming rice for yet another security failure. the u.s. embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania 14 years ago. >> it troubles me so much is the benghazi attack in many ways echos the attacks of those embassies
congressman steve israel, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> the republican smear campaign against ambassador, susan rice, continues as more senators pile on. karen finney weighs in on what's the next best move then? the time is now to find out why the new push for immigration reform is making republicans very uncomfortable. stay with us. >>> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. this decision about my successor is up to...
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congressman steve israel, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> the republican smear campaign against ambassador, susan rice, continues as more senators pile on. karen finney weighs in on what's the next best move then? the time is now to find out why the new push for immigration reform is making republicans very uncomfortable. stay with us. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank, the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose ♪ i'd be all lost at sea ♪ with no reason to make it through ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the celebration diamond collection. ♪ if it wasn't for you [ male announcer ] diamonds so expertly cut, we guarantee them for life. zales is the diamond store. let love shine. >>> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. this decision
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congressman steve israel, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> the republican smear campaign against ambassador, susan rice, continues as more senators pile on. karen finney weighs in on what's the next best move then? the time is now to find out why the new push for immigration reform is making republicans very uncomfortable. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. this decision about my successor is up to the president but i'm very happy he has the opportunity with a second term to make a decision. >> secretary of state, hillary clinton, coming to the defense of his possible successor, u.n. ambassador susan rice. yet, the smear campaign against susan
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day, the man, i'm curious what rick came away feeling, one sentence what this man has to say about israel as a friend? >> i think that's still a question mark. looking at facts, he didn't open the borders between egypt and gaza to allow militants out or allow guns back in. i think looking at actions at this point is what we have to go on. >> you touched on the president's desire to turn back power in the next two weeks or two-week time frame. how is that sitting still? you've got the protests in the square. you've got that momentum that seems to be rebuilding, that led to the ouster of mubarak and the toppling of that government. do they have that concern in the back of their mind? are they seriously looking to turn this thing around and giving the power back to the people or is this stage craft? >> it's a great question. it's interesting. towards the end of the interview that we have in this week's edition, he talks about how he's actually heartened by the protests because this means democracy is working. he reminds us that this is a new process in egypt. he's only been there for a few m
day, the man, i'm curious what rick came away feeling, one sentence what this man has to say about israel as a friend? >> i think that's still a question mark. looking at facts, he didn't open the borders between egypt and gaza to allow militants out or allow guns back in. i think looking at actions at this point is what we have to go on. >> you touched on the president's desire to turn back power in the next two weeks or two-week time frame. how is that sitting still? you've got...
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can break the 4,000-year-old bond between the people of israel and the land of israel. >> the palestinians have had a permanent observer status at the u.n. since 1974, when the palestinian liberation organization oh was recognized as an observer, a position which is not defined in the u.n.'s charter. >>> and for the first time since the election, president barack obama and governor mitt romney will meet. they're going to have lunch at the white house. before that happens, romney will meet with his former running mate, congressman paul ryan. >>> former baltimore orioles doug de census is indicted on insider trading. money laundering for a stock sale in 2008. the feds claim decinces bought $160,000 of stock in a medical device company and sold it for $1.3 billion after a friend alerted him to a takeover bid. >>> let's talk -- real sports now. they say you can't lose your job to injury. tell that to alex smith. the 49ers' quarterback was on a role this season, completing 70% of his passes and leading the team to the top of the power rankings and then he suffered a concussion in the november 1
can break the 4,000-year-old bond between the people of israel and the land of israel. >> the palestinians have had a permanent observer status at the u.n. since 1974, when the palestinian liberation organization oh was recognized as an observer, a position which is not defined in the u.n.'s charter. >>> and for the first time since the election, president barack obama and governor mitt romney will meet. they're going to have lunch at the white house. before that happens, romney...